![]() ![]() I don't know where things stand today, but a couple years back, it seemed like every bass trombone player had or wanted a 72H, but very few expected to be able to play it since their performing act depended on a second valve, so I guess its superior virtues had to be manifested from inside its case.STANDARD STRAIGHT TROMBONE SLIDE POSITION CHARTįrom “ Trombone Tips for Players & Students“ With one valve, the length of the slide is more of an issue Conn 72H and similar, I think everyone agrees that they have a longer than average slide (and therefore a shorter bell section) don't know about the 321. You're talking about other models, or have a different definition of bass trombone? There seem to be plenty of players who think it exactly fills the bill - not glamorous and therefore reasonably economical, but a good playing instrument and usually well made. 562 bore, which makes it a bass trombone as far as I know. Yamaha has this tendency to call big bore tenors "Tenorbass". I'd personally get a Bach, Conn or King for $1500, take it to a brass tech and have him fix it up for $2-$300, and then play the spit out of it.īone-a-phone wrote:The market is flooded with 300 and 400 series Yamaha single valve basses. There's a lot to know, but not much of it makes sense until you get one and play it. I own a dependent Bb/F/Eb and an independent Bb/F/D, and find the D tuning more useful, and generally prefer the independent arrangement because yes, I do get Db and Gb in 1st position. The most common tuning is Bb/F/D (the D is for both valves, sometimes independent horns will be listed as Bb/F/Gb/D), although Bb/F/Eb and even Bb/F/E tunings are available. If you're a casual player, I don't expect dependent or independent will make a lot of difference to you (are you really going to engage just the second valve by itself to get Db and Gb in 1st position?) The biggest difference is that independent gives you a lot more options, which can be good or bad. Independent means the valves can be used independently or together. Dependent valves require the first valve to be activated before the second valve will have any effect. It can be repaired or improved, but not by every technician, and not in every situation (depends on the type of damage).Īnd then there's the whole dependent/independent valve arrangement question. Horns without a name are generally Chinese, and may be ok, or may be trash. JPRath/Packer and the lower (x00) Raths are said to be great. I've heard good things about Jupiter 1240 If you want to go Chinese, I'd recommend the Wessex pbf565 is really nice ($1800), and the pbf562 is adequate (~$1k) The can be tough ergonomically speaking, and mechanically quirky. I wouldn't recommend an olds for a casual player. Olds made some double valve basses, but these are more for niche players or modders. You can get the 181 or 180 for generally less than $2k. Holton makes/made the 181, 180, and a number of older horns which are again highly regarded. These are usually reasonably priced ($1k - $1500) You can generally get them for around $1500+/-īenge was related to King, and the 290 had a big bell, but is generally highly regarded, although I played one and thought it was unweildy. This is highly sought after for lighter, big band stuff. The 6b is known as the Duo Gravis, and is much beloved by people who love smaller bore bass trombones. King has a 7b, which is a pretty standard bass bone, although maybe has a smaller bore through the valves. There are a few around you can find used. I play a Kanstul 1662, which is a copy of the old Conn 62h. The 1062 has a giant bore bottom slide, and might be unweildy for a casual bass player. I'd recommend the 1052 as it's kind of standard. There are two main Getzens, the 1052 and the 1062. The Conn 62h has a couple versions, the old Elkharts which are venerated and the newer ones, which are readily available. Many people feel these can be inconsistent, so be careful if you buy online. There's also the Bach 50b variants 50b2 and 50b3, along with more exotic valve options. The market is flooded with 300 and 400 series Yamaha single valve basses. I don't think they're great, but they're certainly not bad. The easiest to find will be Yamaha 620, 613, 611, prices range from <$1k to <$3k. I'ts possible to get a decent used bass under $2k. It really depends on how much money you want to spend. ![]()
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